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习近平在福建(三十四):“牢记政府前面‘人民’二字”

发布时间:2020-09-02 来源:学习时报 浏览次数:1961次

采访对象:黄世宏,1948年5月生,福建厦门人。《福建日报》高级记者。曾任《福建日报》负责报道省领导班子新闻的屏山记者站站长。2008年5月退休。

采 访 组:邱 然  陈 思 黄 珊

采访日期:2017年6月3日初访,2020年1月6日核访

采访地点: 福州市芳沁园,福州悦华酒店


采访组:黄世宏同志,您好!习近平同志在福建工作期间,您在哪一个时期与他接触比较多?

黄世宏:我与习近平同志接触较多的时期,是他任福建省委副书记、代省长的时候。当时我是《福建日报》屏山记者站站长。福州城内有三座山,就是屏山、于山和乌山,省委省政府坐落在屏山边。屏山记者站是《福建日报》为宣传报道省委省政府时政活动而设立的,主要任务有三个方面:一是报道省委省政府主要领导的活动;二是报道福建重要时政活动;三是采写涉及全省发展战略和重大典型的报道。


采访组:对您而言,习近平同志在福建工作的十七年多时间里,他哪一句话给您留下的印象最为深刻?

黄世宏:“牢记政府前面‘人民’二字”,这是习近平同志给我留下印象最深刻的一句话。

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习近平同志在主持讲话中严肃地说:“我们是人民政府,但现在很多政府部门已经忘记了自己名称前面的‘人民’二字,所以我们很有必要重提这两个字。”他罗列了当前某些政府机关和干部忘记“人民”二字的种种表现,毫不客气地指出:“对那些忘记人民,甚至骑在人民头上作威作福的人,要把他们从我们队伍中清除出去。”在那次讲话中,他对怎样才能牢记政府前面“人民”二字提出了具体要求。

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采访组:牢记政府前面的“人民”二字,把人民的事情放在心中,关心和关注群众的难事急事,是习近平同志执政为民的具体体现。您在工作中是否接触过很多这样的典型事例?

黄世宏:这样的事例很多,我就讲一件吧。大约是2000年,习近平同志收到一封匿名信,是一个外来打工者写给他的。来信的大致内容是:他从山区来福州市打工,爱人和两个孩子随着来省城。孩子一年年长大了,已到了读书年龄,但因为户籍限制,无法上学读书。他希望省里能够出台相关政策,帮助外来打工者就地解决孩子的读书问题。习近平同志认真看了信的内容,认为这是一个普遍性问题,亟待解决。他就把这封信批给福州市,请他们就这封信做调研,把这作为一个重要问题来解决。

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采访组:习近平同志任省长期间,对“晋江经验”的总结和推广做了大量工作。您曾跟随他赴晋江调研采访,请您对这段历史做一个回顾。

黄世宏:我对“晋江经验”的诞生过程还是比较了解的。

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采访组:请您讲讲习近平同志担任省长期间抓“生态省”建设的情况。

黄世宏:在建设“生态省”这项工作上,习近平同志是非常有远见的。当时,福建虽然已经出现了一些破坏生态的情况,但全省生态的总体状况在全国来说还是比较好的。在这种情况下,习近平同志能在全国范围内率先提出和设计“生态省”发展规划,不仅及时保护了福建生态环境,也为“生态福建”建设指明了方向、奠定了基础。

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采访组:习近平同志在福建工作期间很多领导工作理念,与他现在提出的一些发展战略有着一脉相承的关系,请您给我们介绍一些这方面的事例。

黄世宏:确实,习近平同志在福建工作期间的不少领导工作理念,跟党的十八大以来党中央的很多新理念新思想新战略有着密切的承继关系。

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采访组:您在屏山记者站工作期间,曾经和习近平同志一起到重庆市万县地区开展对口帮扶工作。请您讲讲那次重庆之行给您留下印象深刻的事情。

黄世宏:1999年,时任代省长的习近平同志受省委委托,带领福建代表团到重庆市万县地区开展对口帮扶工作。那次,我随代表团一起前往,负责新闻报道工作。代表团里有福建各地市委书记或市长、省直机关领导和省工商联组织的一些企业代表。我们到重庆的当晚,重庆市委就跟我们进行了交流。晚饭后,代表团就坐了一艘客轮往万县进发,并在船上过夜。

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